Cigarette Week: Guess who smokes?
Cigarette Week: Guess who smokes?
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(Continuation of Cigarette and Game week A Classic: Double Cigarette Light Move, Question on Cigarettes Girls and Game, Dallas Winston: Strike Anywhere Match Move.)
Keyser Söze
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I have mentioned before, I know the real Keyser Söze.
Think.
Every great artist, intellectual, musician, architect, sportsman, actor, hood, International Playboy has smoked.
The most interesting people at the table are always smokers.
Anti-smoking laws are big brother’s method of controlling us.
Smoke up.
And swoop girls.
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14/08/2009 at 11:56 am Permalink
Keyser Söze is the shit. I love that movie.
14/08/2009 at 11:58 am Permalink
I smoke and workout which some people see as an oxymoron. I saw a youtube video of a very famous German bodybuilder who lights up a marlboro when he walks out of a supermarket!
14/08/2009 at 7:31 pm Permalink
Screw the tax man. I’m getting my JPS Blacks from a website out of Israel. $25 a carton. Still smoking. Still playin
14/08/2009 at 7:55 pm Permalink
Smoking tobacco in the form of modern cigarettes has only been around for the last 100 years. There are a lot of talented and interesting people who have smoked, especially at the height of social acceptability and many have died as a result. I just heard an NPR report about Desi Arnaz (I Love Lucy) who died of lung cancer at 69 from smoking. Lots of other not-so-famous or brilliant people smoke. In fact, half of all cigarettes smoked are smoked by people with mental illness. Most alcoholics are smokers. Most drug addicts are smokers.
There is a high correlation between being poor and smoking cigarettes. There is an even higher correlation between those with little education smoking. Only about 6 to 8% of people with a master’s degree or higher smoke compared with about 35% of those without a high school diploma. Cigarette smoking is a poor person’s disease. And it’s a shame that more is not done to help them.
Cigars are still a rich man’s hobby, but are not smoked nearly as often or in the quantities that cigarettes are, and therefore we don’t see the same levels of catastrophe.
Tobacco companies make a living off the suffering of others. Simple as that. The government makes their share of the cut, that’s true, but if it weren’t for the companies themselves and everyone just grew their own, we’d be much better off as a society.
16/08/2009 at 3:41 am Permalink
no ones making you smoke and I couldnt care less if a friend wants to smoke or not but when all these busy body do-gooders want to attempt to enforce their beliefs on everyone else through taxes and bans in bars ect then thats not on, its just another example of the nanny state trying to control people
also you sprout off all these statistics as if they are evidence, your obviously not overly educated yourself as a basic stats class would tell you that correlation does not equal causation (for instance 100% of rapists have consumed water before offending, does this mean that water makes you become a rapist?) so all these stats that smoking is a habit for poor drug addicts is nonsense
Tobacco companies provide a product and then we as the consumers decide whether we want to purchase and consume their products, they dont force their products on anyone and it would be completely unfeasable to expect everyone to grow their own tobacco and then dry and prepare it for smoking. Thats why humans learned to trade with each other
16/08/2009 at 9:32 pm Permalink
I never said anything about causation. I don’t think being poor or uneducated or an alcoholic or mentally ill CAUSES people to smoke. It just so happens that people with these characteristics DO smoke in far greater numbers than those without these characteristics-for a variety of reasons. It doesn’t take a statistician to see that. Just look at who’s smoking. Talk to someone who runs a homeless shelter, or a drug recovery program, or the local psyche ward, then go to a high society event. Notice a pattern?
As far as the tobacco companies producing a product that people buy…people are sheep. They will buy whatever you put in front of them. ESPECIALLY when they are poor, uneducated and are looking for an easy fix. That’s what marketing (to the poor) and lobbying (to try and keep prices low and easily available to the poor) is for.
Why DON’T people grow their own or trade with someone who does? It’s not illegal, it’s not taxed. People are lazy and want to buy whatever is being sold to them in prepackaged units. They buy what has been massively manipulated to hit triggers in their off-balanced brains more easily than home grown stuff like cigars or peace pipes do.
Back in the day, it was for the rich and glamourous, but not any more. And as far as causation, one thing’s for sure, tobacco does CAUSE cancer. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, or rather, don’t.
16/08/2009 at 11:37 pm Permalink
This must be a joke,
“There are a lot of talented and interesting people who have smoked, especially at the height of social acceptability and many have died as a result.”
Yeah. And many people who didn’t smoke died also. In fact, we all die.
“In fact, half of all cigarettes smoked are smoked by people with mental illness.”
Maybe. But the other half is successful. Mental illness and success many times go hand in hand. They are not mutually exclusive. Hell, I probably have tons of mental illness. So did Salvador Dali.
“There is a high correlation between being poor and smoking cigarettes. There is an even higher correlation between those with little education smoking. Only about 6 to 8% of people with a master’s degree or higher smoke compared with about 35% of those without a high school diploma”‘
Where are you getting these stats?
- MPM
16/08/2009 at 11:40 pm Permalink
This must be a joke,
“Just look at who’s smoking.”
Model Girls?
“people are sheep”
Hence, people not smoking as much these days.
“That’s what marketing (to the poor) and lobbying (to try and keep prices low and easily available to the poor) is for.”
False. Cigarette companies can’t barely market anymore. And prices are not low (obviously, because of taxes also). Smoking is a $5000 a year habit. It’s a rich persons drug.
“And as far as causation, one thing’s for sure, tobacco does CAUSE cancer.”
So does sunshine.
“So put that in your pipe and smoke it”
Don’t mind if I do.
- MPM
17/08/2009 at 1:55 am Permalink
Lots of thing CAN(possibly) cause cancer. I’m sorry but even the best scientists will say there is a correlation between the two but not proof that it has to and/or will cause cancer. My Great Grandmother began smoking when she was 12 and smoked to be 80 years old. She outlived almost all of her friends and outlived her parents and son. She never got cancer of any kind. I’m sorry but frankly I don’t want to outlive all my friends. I want to live long enough to know my great grand children and pass some stories to them and such but pushing past 80 would probably not be my thing. I just don’t understand why everyone is so damned concerned about what i do to MY body. If you (key word here) POLITELY let me know that my smoke is bothering you I will gladly move to a different area or extinguish my cigarette. As I have yet to have anyone POLITELY ask me I have come off as an asshole. I find this very rude and upsetting. All these nonsmokers on there high horses think they are better than me simply because they don’t smoke. They don’t have to be rude and uncivil. I have digressed far from my original statement. Cancer is a problem on a cellular level honestly from the research I have read through and such, I think 9 times out of 10 cancer is linked to things that may have been unavoidable to begin with. As we are learning more about our genetic code and such it is becoming even more clear that your personal genetic code has more to do with cancer and disease than anything you can put into your body.
So as to “So put that in your pipe and smoke it”
I will gladly second that motion and Smoke up.
I have an electronic cigarette, Hookah, and tobacco pipe. I will enjoy my various methods of smoking.
17/08/2009 at 9:47 pm Permalink
The stats I gave were from what I remember and were estimates. Here are some references for actual numbers and they are even more staggering.
This is for cigarettes, not cigars.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5320a2.htm
“By education level, smoking prevalence was highest among adults who had earned a General Educational Development diploma (42.3%) and lowest among those with graduate degrees (7.2%).”
Current smoking prevalence also was higher among adults living below the poverty level* (32.9%) than among those at or above the poverty level (22.2%).
http://eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/15/3/262
“Conclusions: Smoking was associated with structural, material as well as perceived dimensions of socioeconomic disadvantage.”
http://www.enotalone.com/article/3110.html
“A proportionally large number of people with mental illness smoke. The smoking rate in the general population is just over 20% (Glassman 1999), while the proportion of people with schizophrenia who smoke may be as high as 90% (Glassman, 1993).”
http://www.bipolarworld.net/Bipolar%20Disorder/Articles/art39.htm
MENTAL ILLNESS:
PERCENTAGE WHO ARE SMOKERS
Bipolar Disorder 70%
Major Depression 60%
Schizophrenia 90%
Panic Disorder 56%
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder 60%
“Smoking prevalence among active alcoholics approaches 90%.”—J. T. Hayes, K. P. Offord, I. T. Croghan, D. R. Schroeder, R. D. Hurt (ASAM), D. E. Jorenby,
http://medicolegal.tripod.com/preventalcoholism.htm
You are obviously ok with smoking and the whole industry around it and may or may not ever quit. You seem to like to promote the idea of smoking for some reason. All I am saying is that this image you are trying to portray of the glamourous smoking like in the 50s seems more like a joke than anything. It’s like saying (as they did in the 50s) “Lead in paint is great!” “We should build our houses with asbestos” “Pregnant women can drink as much alcohol as they want” and “We should have separate drinking fountains for the races”. It’s just crazy in this day and age.
17/08/2009 at 10:23 pm Permalink
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
- Mark Twain
18/08/2009 at 12:38 pm Permalink
So you’re saying they are not true? Have you ever seen homeless people? Recently released people from prison?
A tobacco rep even once said something along the lines that they (the tobacco executives) don’t smoke cigarettes, they leave that to the young, the poor, the black (by which I think they meant anyone other than white) and the stupid.
Which describes everything that the “powerful minority” is not: old, rich, ivy league-educated white (men mostly). There is not a tobacco company CEO today who smokes cigarettes. If you don’t buy the stats, try looking at the poorest component of your community and see if that doesn’t do it for you.
As far as models are concerned, they fit the demographic perfectly. When have you ever seen a highly educated model (VERY rarely I’d say)? They are using their bodies, not minds to make money, and usually most don’t make much (to become a supermodel is like winning the lottery for them). Same thing with strippers. Vapid, strung out, with little chance of a future after their looks (or bodies) run out. Much in line with other industries with high tobacco use including most of the illegal professions like drug dealing, smuggling, robbery, prostitution which is why prisons are filled with a bunch of poor smokers using cigarettes as currency.
And according to the FTC (to which the tobacco industry is required to report), the tobacco industry still spends a lot (billions) on marketing believe it or not. Mostly on price discounts (buy one get one coupons) so that the poor people will continue buying their product even after it reaches super high prices due to taxes. They also spend a lot of their marketing advertising money in other countries with more lax laws (and therefore higher rates of use).
If you don’t believe stats start by looking around.
25/08/2009 at 12:05 pm Permalink
“As far as models are concerned, they fit the demographic perfectly. When have you ever seen a highly educated model (VERY rarely I’d say)?”
Spoken like someone with minimal experience with model girls.
Actually model girls reflect the demographic like any other group.
Some highly intelligent, some average intelligence, some low intelligence.
- MPM